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jaycharles
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Posted: 04 August 2007 at 21:54 | IP Logged Quote jaycharles

Naruto wrote:
I obtain Nellymoser codec C++ library for a $2500 from one guy.


Did he happen to have Rolex watches and Gucci handbags as well?

... sorry. Couldn't help it.
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emansouri
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Posted: 04 August 2007 at 22:19 | IP Logged Quote emansouri

I have an AIR app I built that lets you record sound and then save the sound to the desktop as an FLV, WAV, or MP3 file.

It's quite primitive right now, and is working better on Windows than on the Mac (although I develop on a Mac).

I am posting about it here simply because I thought those involved in this topic may find it interesting. The app is pretty simple and should be self-explanatory.

It can be downloaded here:

http://www.airapps.net/?passThrough=AIRAppsMall&appNumber=17 7

Edited by emansouri on 04 August 2007 at 22:21
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Posted: 04 August 2007 at 22:22 | IP Logged Quote emansouri

For some reason in the previous posting, it adds a space at the end of the URL I posted. The appNumber should be 177, not 17 7
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Posted: 16 August 2007 at 16:28 | IP Logged Quote ichidan

I have created a Linux based converter that works as a simple command-line tool.

flv2wav infile.flv outfile.wav

I've only ran it on a Gentoo VM. It takes around 1 second to convert 300 seconds (5mins) of FLV to WAV. So it's very fast.

There's still some work I want to get done on it before it's ready for my uses (for instance ensuring compatibility with FLV's generated by FlashMediaServer, Red 5, aswell as my own high-performance Linux MediaServer).

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If you are offering this tool to the forum members for free, please post your direct download link, and indicate how the transcoding is done so the members here can determine for themselves whether your software is legal in their country, or violates any EULA they may have already agreed to (i.e ... does it use the Flashplayer?)

If you are trying to sell this tool to the forum members, please contact the site admin for advertising information.

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Edited by jaycharles on 16 August 2007 at 17:11
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Posted: 16 August 2007 at 19:42 | IP Logged Quote jbourne

emansouri wrote:
I have an AIR app I built that lets you record sound and then save the sound to the desktop as an FLV, WAV, or MP3 file.

It's quite primitive right now, and is working better on Windows than on the Mac (although I develop on a Mac).

I am posting about it here simply because I thought those involved in this topic may find it interesting. The app is pretty simple and should be self-explanatory.

It can be downloaded here:

http://www.airapps.net/?passThrough=AIRAppsMall&appNumber=17 7


That looks pretty cool, I wonder if that could be used to communicate with Flash Media Server? How do you uh, work with AIR Apps?
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Posted: 17 August 2007 at 13:25 | IP Logged Quote ichidan

[4us]   Uber-Convert Version 1.00
[43us]   * Converting 'flv/icecube.flv' => 'wav/icecube_11khz.wav'
[209us] Loaded 'flv/icecube.flv' (62967 bytes)
[33ms]   * Converted 'wav/icecube_11khz.wav' (372460 bytes)
[4us]   Uber-Convert Version 1.00
[95us]   * Converting 'flv/100hz.flv' => 'wav/100hz_11khz.wav'
[197us] Loaded 'flv/100hz.flv' (24472 bytes)
[22ms]   * Converted 'wav/100hz_11khz.wav' (213356 bytes)

(the [] represents time, as you can see it takes only 33milliseconds to convert a 30 second FLV to WAV, so it's effectively instant) My server specs are:

vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model         & nbsp; : 15
model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU         &nb sp;  5130 @ 2.00GHz
stepping        : 6
cpu MHz        : 1995.025
cache size      : 4096 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 2
core id        : 0
cpu cores       : 2

Also doesnt depend on other packages like X etc, firefox etc.
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Posted: 17 August 2007 at 13:29 | IP Logged Quote ichidan

jaycharles: It doesn't use flashplayer. I'm not in the process of selling it, and I'd probably just give it away for free. At the moment I'm interested in other people's thoughts, what features they're looking for, and whether they could provide me with FLV's that they're trying to convert, and I'll add such functionality into the converter.

There's quite a bit of math involved in decoding FLV's and generating the PCM output, I want to make sure it's top notch before releasing it. That was the only reason for supplying my gmail.
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Posted: 17 August 2007 at 14:04 | IP Logged Quote jaycharles

ichidan wrote:
jaycharles: It doesn't use flashplayer. I'm not in the process of selling it, and I'd probably just give it away for free. At the moment I'm interested in other people's thoughts, what features they're looking for, and whether they could provide me with FLV's that they're trying to convert, and I'll add such functionality into the converter.



Thanks for clarifying that for me. We've had a number of postings for similar software here that people either wanted money for, or that used questionable methods for handling the transcoding, neither of which are appropriate for the fourm.

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Posted: 21 August 2007 at 00:41 | IP Logged Quote okeylsbiun

Here's a link to an open source Nellymoser Asao decoder:

http://code.google.com/p/nelly2pcm/downloads/list

Enjoy!
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Posted: 21 August 2007 at 02:36 | IP Logged Quote jbourne

okeylsbiun wrote:
Here's a link to an open source Nellymoser Asao decoder:

http://code.google.com/p/nelly2pcm/downloads/list

Enjoy!


OMG. Whoever you is, you done it. I don't know who wrote this, but they must obviously be concerned with the legality, as the copyright authors' names are md5()'d. :) Anyway, great work, whoever you are!!!

Timing:

[root@defiant nelly2pcm]# time ./nelly2pcm test.flv > test.pcm
mono Nellymoser stream with 16-bit samples at 22kHz

real    0m1.212s
user    0m0.702s
sys     0m0.058s

For a 90-second .FLV.

Total time to run the following:

time ./nelly2pcm test.flv > test.pcm
sox -t raw -c 1 -w -r 22000 -s test.pcm test.wav
lame test.wav test.mp3

real    0m3.551s
user    0m3.426s
sys     0m0.088s

This is on a dual Opteron.

Hats off.
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Posted: 21 August 2007 at 06:42 | IP Logged Quote adams

Is it possible to decode stream ? in the real time ? to accomplish connection with the Asterisk for example ?
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Posted: 21 August 2007 at 17:25 | IP Logged Quote jstory

okeylsbiun wrote:
Here's a link to an open source Nellymoser Asao decoder:

http://code.google.com/p/nelly2pcm/downloads/list

Enjoy!


Woo hoo! This one works perfect for me. I can't tell you all the different "decoders" I have tried. Some worked, but the audio was crap since it was trying to record at a faster speed than on the fly. Others just didn't work at all. Many Thanks!
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Posted: 21 August 2007 at 19:08 | IP Logged Quote jbourne

adams wrote:
Is it possible to decode stream ? in the real time ? to accomplish connection with the Asterisk for example ?


Hehe, that'd be the next cool thing to do, but I think we're far from that. The only POSSIBILITY I can even think of is using Red5, since it runs on Java, and adding some classes that link it to Asterisk - if it's possible at all.
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Posted: 22 August 2007 at 16:47 | IP Logged Quote SeaCaptain

Hi,

I've been reading this forum for a while as this is a problem I'm really interested in solving legally - i.e. without having to recommend using tools that might break the Flash Player EULA.

Would this Open Source codec pose any legal problems for use as part of a software solution...or am I opening a can of worms asking that question? :)
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Posted: 22 August 2007 at 21:39 | IP Logged Quote jaycharles

SeaCaptain wrote:
Hi,

I've been reading this forum for a while as this is a problem I'm really interested in solving legally - i.e. without having to recommend using tools that might break the Flash Player EULA.

Would this Open Source codec pose any legal problems for use as part of a software solution...or am I opening a can of worms asking that question? :)


Since we don't seem to have any attorneys or patent researchers here, I don't think we have a solid answer to that question.

Given that there are no commercially available alternatives to the Asao codec (or at least, none from verifiable, reputable sources), I personally would think twice about using it, especially in a commercial application.

Ask yourself this... if there is a free, legal alternative, why on earth would adobe pay to license the codec?

I do, however, find the MD5'd copyright notice absolutely hysterical.




Edited by jaycharles on 22 August 2007 at 21:40
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Posted: 17 September 2007 at 00:38 | IP Logged Quote Zidge

Hi all,

I am glad too that someone wrote such an easy to use decoder (flv2pcm), however, as a lot of ppl I am worrying about legal issues.

After a bit more than 3 weeks, does anybody have any informations about that ?
ie: Is it legal to use this tool, if not, what can I do to use it legally ?

Thanks to all, in particular for this unknown soldier who wrote that :)
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